I understand that, Mr. Chair, but we get to speak on the effects of bringing a motion in committee. That's part of what has happened here today.
Actually, what's happened is worse than that. The minister for labour is supposed to be here now. We're at 4:50. It was supposed to start at 4:30, but instead, at the last minute, Mr. Gerretsen has now interrupted the appearance of two ministers with his motion, whereas we wanted to actually speak to the minister of labour about many things—for example, about how they spent $600 million on outside contracting when those jobs could have gone to good union-paid public servants.