Evidence of meeting #117 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 44th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was federal.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey
Thank you.
Madame Chabot, we'll now move to discussion on the amendment to the motion that's been put forward by Mrs. Gray.
Ms. Zarrillo, do you wish to speak to the amendment by Mrs. Gray?
I'm sorry. Madame Chabot, do you wish to speak to the amendment by Mrs. Gray?
Bloc
Louise Chabot Bloc Thérèse-De Blainville, QC
Mr. Chair, I raised my hand earlier to speak to Ms. Zarrillo's motion. That's the procedural flaw. You'll need to find a way to give me the floor to discuss the motion, before I speak to the amendment.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey
Okay. That's fine.
Madame Chabot, you can proceed with the question you have regarding the original motion, since it is procedural.
Bloc
Louise Chabot Bloc Thérèse-De Blainville, QC
I'll help you by saying that I don't support the amendment, because I fundamentally disagree with the main proposal.
If we wanted to look for other people involved, we could find them just about anywhere in Canada. I don't think that the committee is here to put the group in Ms. Zarrillo's motion on trial. I imagine that this wouldn't be a good thing. On that basis, I won't be voting in favour of the motion. I know that Ms. Zarrillo prepared another motion, which I would have been more comfortable supporting. However, she didn't move it.
I disagree with this motion. As a result, I also disagree with the amendment.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey
Thank you, Ms. Chabot.
We're now on the amendment by Mrs. Gray to Ms. Zarrillo's motion.
Ms. Zarrillo, you have your hand up.
NDP
Bonita Zarrillo NDP Port Moody—Coquitlam, BC
Thank you so much, Mr. Chair.
I wonder if I could just ask about the timing. This is quite timely. It's urgent. Does Mrs. Gray's amendment push us past our last meeting day, which I think would be the second-last week of June? If I could, I'll just get some clarity on timing.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey
Before we give clarity, I would like to advise the witnesses that we will not get back to you. You can excuse yourselves at this time. To those appearing virtually, thank you for appearing.
We must conclude this before we suspend to transition to the next meeting. Those witnesses appearing virtually can excuse themselves, as can those in the room.
Liberal
Conservative
Tracy Gray Conservative Kelowna—Lake Country, BC
Yes, Mr. Chair. Thank you.
The intention of this is to still be able to address the motion that has been put forth by Ms. Zarrillo, without taking time away from this study and the work we're already doing on the existing study. That's why we have in here that we could have an additional meeting on this. We would be prepared to have an additional meeting to address this.
Liberal
Liberal
Peter Fragiskatos Liberal London North Centre, ON
We're prepared to go to a vote, Chair. There's not enough detail on the logistics of things, if I can put it that way. With all due respect, it hasn't been well thought out.
We are prepared to go to a vote on the amendment and then back to the motion.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey
Okay. Thank you.
I will then ask the clerk....
Mrs. Falk, do you have a question?
Conservative
Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK
Do you mean because there are no logistics for an additional meeting planned already? I ask that through you, Chair.
Liberal
Peter Fragiskatos Liberal London North Centre, ON
It's unclear at this point, and I would like to make sure that we get time with witnesses today.
We're ready to vote on the amendment and then on the motion, Mr. Chair.
Conservative
Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK
Just on the process, if we decided as a committee to have additional meetings, wouldn't that then be figured out?
Chair, I don't know who you contact about resources and that type of thing, but....
Conservative
Conservative
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey
Whatever direction the committee gives to the chair, the clerk looks to accommodate that.
Conservative
Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK
Okay. If we decided here today to add this to our study, you, as chair, would figure it out and get it done.
It sounds like the Liberals just don't want to work and get it done. It's unfortunate.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey
No, Ms. Falk, do not put words to me as the chair.
I would advise the clerk to look at the options of accommodating the committee's wish, and the clerk would then have to advise me on whether that is doable.
Conservative
Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK
Absolutely, Chair. I'm not suggesting....
I see you as impartial. I don't see you as a Liberal at this table. Please don't take it that I'm throwing you in—