Exactly. To that point, I guess what I'm looking for...and what you say in these testimonies is really what's put in the committee report that goes back to the House and that we hopefully evaluate.
Speaking to reporters at a press conference on Parliament Hill, the Auditor General said the government really doesn't know if all the housing-related money spent so far, about $4.5 billion across six different programs.... That's a lot of the homelessness issue. When you talk about transparency and accountability, I guess what I'm asking you, on the record, is that it doesn't feel like that's in place right now by the federal government and the current government in charge. It doesn't feel like that. Obviously, things have never been worse. Rent has never been this high. We've never seen these encampments.
How do you make sure that there's accountability and measurable results and that the money is actually helping people? What can we do?