We need those to be able to give a hand-up to those people who need housing. As you mentioned, it's on a continuum. Sometimes it's a little bit more complicated or it's sometimes a little bit easier with just, like you said, setting up a bank account, that type of thing.
Would you agree that with the amount of money Canadians, taxpayers, are spending on servicing debt, that money that's being used to service and pay interest payments on the debt the Justin Trudeau government has created could be used to help people with those wraparound services that are needed?