We find that for Canadian domestic jobs and youth, we have a better chance of recruiting them for more internship-type programs and what people would call the higher-skilled jobs. What we're finding is that, for what we would say are the entry-level, harvesting labourer positions, what's generally happening—and this has been documented through surveys—is that people will apply, occasionally including young people as well, and then a lot of the time, they leave after a day. That's very common.
We find there's a better connection for more of an internship-type program. On a lot of farms, you have a lot of grower positions, which include a lot of science, HR positions and interim and farm manager positions. There's a better connection there. If ESDC worked with the industry on that, I think you would have a much better chance of recruiting and retaining youth.