On the policy transfer, we did transfer a number of individuals and resources to the newly formed HICC, Housing, Infrastructure and Communities Canada. Those individuals work on the development of policy. They consider policy alternatives, provide policy options to government and sit at the intergovernmental tables. They work with other departments in providing formal advice to the minister and to other government colleagues.
We did transfer a number of staff to the department. We did not transfer our delivery staff, so we still have a large number of people who are working on the ground with clients and serving clients every day. We still have a tremendous amount of knowledge, and we are still the centre of expertise for the delivery of those programs. We have a tremendous amount of knowledge of what's actually happening on the ground, what works and what doesn't work.