Evidence of meeting #141 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 44th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was cmhc.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Coleen Volk  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation
Nadine Leblanc  Senior Vice-President, Corporate Affairs and Policy and Interim Chief Risk Officer, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation
Kristina Namiesniowski  Senior Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Employment and Social Development
Elisha Ram  Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Income Security and Social Development, Department of Employment and Social Development

11 a.m.

Liberal

Peter Fragiskatos Liberal London North Centre, ON

Mr. Chair, based on the fact that we have a very busy agenda today, I move to adjourn the suspended meeting and move immediately to the agenda of the day.

11 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

We have a dilatory motion, so I'll put it to a vote.

The vote is to adjourn that discussion so we can proceed to the next order of business, which is the minister's appearance today.

(Motion agreed to)

With that, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the committee on Thursday, February 8, 2024, the committee is resuming its study of Canada without barriers by 2040.

We have today with us the minister, the Honourable Kamal Khera, Minister of Diversity, Inclusion and Persons with Disabilities.

Accompanying the minister for the first hour are the senior associate deputy minister, the senior assistant deputy minister and the director general, employment program policy and design, skills and employment branch.

You will introduce yourselves when the time comes. I am not going to attempt it, outside of your titles.

Minister Khera, you have five minutes for an opening statement. You have the floor.

December 12th, 2024 / 11:05 a.m.

Brampton West Ontario

Liberal

Kamal Khera LiberalMinister of Diversity

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Good morning.

Good morning to all the committee members. Thanks for inviting me. It's great to be here today, and I'm really looking forward to having a thoughtful discussion on disability inclusion and on what more we can do to create a barrier-free Canada.

First and foremost, I want to take a moment to thank the committee and its members for taking the time for the work on this study. I can tell you that, as Minister of Diversity, Inclusion and Persons with Disabilities, my goal is to build a Canada where everyone, regardless of their background or ability, has an equal opportunity to succeed.

Since day one, we've been working in partnership with Canada's disability community in the true spirit of “nothing without us” to create a barrier-free Canada, but that doesn't just happen by accident. It takes deliberate and persistent action, and that's exactly what we're busy delivering on.

Since being elected, we have made a lot of progress towards making Canada more accessible, particularly through the implementation of the Accessible Canada Act. In fact, this year marks the fifth anniversary since the act came into force. I want to take a moment, Mr. Chair, to highlight some of the incredible things that we have accomplished together under the Accessible Canada Act.

At the federal level, our government has implemented critical regulations that require federally regulated entities to transparently plan and to report to the public on their efforts to remove accessibility barriers. Accessibility Standards Canada was established to develop national accessibility standards in all the priority areas set out by the Accessible Canada Act.

We also launched Canada's first-ever disability inclusion action plan. It is a road map to get to a barrier-free Canada by 2040. It has four particular pillars. The first is around strengthening financial security. The second is on employment. The third is around building accessible communities. The fourth is really about modernizing the way that we look at disability.

Canada's first-ever chief accessibility officer was appointed. The office of the accessibility commissioner was also created under the act. We have also created a new statutory benefit to supplement the incomes of working-age persons with disabilities, and we are on track to deliver the Canada disability benefit in July 2025.

In the spring of this year, we hosted Canada's first-ever Air Accessibility Summit, bringing together experts, people from the industry and persons with disabilities themselves to work together to find solutions when it comes to disability inclusion within the transportation sector. Just this past summer, we launched an employment strategy for persons with disabilities to make workplaces and our economies more accessible.

Like I said, we have accomplished a lot when it comes to promoting disability inclusion in Canada, and these aren't just words. This is real, tangible work on the ground, and I can tell you the impact that is taking place in communities and for Canadians right across this country.

I just want to take a moment to give you an example of how our work is changing lives and communities. Like I said, this past summer, we launched Canada's first-ever employment strategy for persons with disabilities. One of the programs that fall under the strategy is called the opportunities fund. Through this fund, we give grants and contributions to businesses and organizations to make their workplaces more accessible. We help match the skills of persons with disabilities with the jobs of the day that are needed to be filled and also help persons with disabilities actually find and keep meaningful jobs.

One organization that we funded is the Eastern Ontario Training Board, and I want to share with you Levi's story. Levi is a person with a disability who had been out of work for about a year, and he was connected to the Eastern Ontario Training Board. There, he got help writing his résumé and finding a job that actually fits his skills. They also provided him with a bus pass so that he could actually get to the interview and get to his job. They also provided him with the equipment that was needed for his disability to ensure that he can fully participate in the workplace of his choice. Not only did they help him find a job and prepare for the job, but they also supported him while he was employed.

It's not just about recruitment of persons with disabilities. It's also about retention and making sure people are able to fully participate in the workforce without any barriers.

This is just one of the hundreds of projects that we funded, and I can tell you the real difference that it is having in communities on the ground. The reality is that, if we want our communities, our economies and our country to truly reach their full potentials, it all starts by making them more accessible. Also, while we have accomplished a lot, we know that there's a lot more work that needs to happen in building a truly barrier-free Canada.

It's work that we must do together because, at the end of the day, creating a barrier-free Canada requires a team Canada approach. I always say, in Canada, diversity is a fact but inclusion is a choice. I can tell you that, as a government, we have been very persistent and deliberate about making that choice to be inclusive, whether it's the choice to promote accessibility or the choice to break down those barriers, because we know that, when we make that choice to include people, Canada and Canadians win.

I'm really looking forward to having a robust discussion.

I forgot to mention that I'm joined by my wonderful team of officials, who work extremely hard every single day on behalf of Canadians.

I'm really looking forward to having a meaningful, thoughtful discussion on removing barriers for persons with disabilities in this country.

Thank you.

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

Thank you, Minister.

We'll now go to our first round of questioning with Mrs. Gray for six minutes.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Tracy Gray Conservative Kelowna—Lake Country, BC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Minister, the United States, New Zealand, Japan, Germany, Afghanistan and what looks like about 100 other countries all have something in common. Residents in those countries with certain levels of hearing loss can use an Apple AirPod hearing aid feature. Right on the Apple website, it states, “Due to regulatory restrictions, Apple is unable to release the Hearing Test and Hearing Aid features in Canada at this time”. This issue was originally brought to me by one of the residents in my riding.

The Canadian government's red tape is blocking access to an accessibility option for persons with hearing loss. On this study that is on Canada without barriers, as the Minister of Persons with Disabilities, what actions are you taking on this?

Kamal Khera Liberal Brampton West, ON

Thanks for raising that question. First and foremost, I will take you back to when we came to build the Accessible Canada Act. It was about five years ago when this act came into force, and I think it's important for you to know that this act is a foundation in really building and changing systems, the systemic changes that need to take place in making that happen.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Tracy Gray Conservative Kelowna—Lake Country, BC

Minister, if I may go to what the question is, are you aware of this situation?

Kamal Khera Liberal Brampton West, ON

We're always working with the communities and making sure that we're working with industry on the ground.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Tracy Gray Conservative Kelowna—Lake Country, BC

Are you aware of this issue?

Kamal Khera Liberal Brampton West, ON

This is the first time I've heard of this particular issue, but I'm happy to work with you—

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Tracy Gray Conservative Kelowna—Lake Country, BC

Okay.

Kamal Khera Liberal Brampton West, ON

—and all members of the House to ensure that we remove barriers—

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Tracy Gray Conservative Kelowna—Lake Country, BC

Therefore, Minister, can you commit today to looking into this and getting back to this committee by December 31 as to what you are doing and what your government is doing to remove these barriers so that Canadians have the same access as other countries? Will you commit to getting back to this committee on that?

Kamal Khera Liberal Brampton West, ON

I'm always happy to work with all members of this committee and all members—

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Tracy Gray Conservative Kelowna—Lake Country, BC

Is that a yes?

Kamal Khera Liberal Brampton West, ON

I'll turn to my officials if they have anything to add on this particular issue.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Tracy Gray Conservative Kelowna—Lake Country, BC

Minister, my question is this: Would you look into this and get back to this committee by December 31?

Kamal Khera Liberal Brampton West, ON

I'm always happy to look into it, but I'm looking to my officials, if they have anything to—

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Tracy Gray Conservative Kelowna—Lake Country, BC

It's a yes-or-no question.

Kamal Khera Liberal Brampton West, ON

I'm always happy to look into it and get back to this committee.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Tracy Gray Conservative Kelowna—Lake Country, BC

Get back to us by December 31. Thank you so much. I appreciate that.

Minister, the last time you were at this committee in April, I asked you three times if Canadians living with disabilities are facing a cost of living crisis, and you would not provide a yes-or-no answer. I'm giving you the opportunity for the fourth time today. Yes or no, are Canadians with disabilities facing a cost of living crisis?

Kamal Khera Liberal Brampton West, ON

If I may, I think it's important to recognize that, after the pandemic, we've certainly seen the challenges Canadians were facing with global inflation, the challenges that Canadians have seen. I can also tell you, Mr. Chair, through you, that we have seen this particular year that inflation has come down. We have seen the Bank of Canada cut—

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Tracy Gray Conservative Kelowna—Lake Country, BC

Minister—

Kamal Khera Liberal Brampton West, ON

—interest rates not once, not twice, but five times, just until, as we know, yesterday.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Tracy Gray Conservative Kelowna—Lake Country, BC

Minister, my question is—