Evidence of meeting #141 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 44th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was cmhc.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Coleen Volk  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation
Nadine Leblanc  Senior Vice-President, Corporate Affairs and Policy and Interim Chief Risk Officer, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation
Kristina Namiesniowski  Senior Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Employment and Social Development
Elisha Ram  Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Income Security and Social Development, Department of Employment and Social Development

Wayne Long Liberal Saint John—Rothesay, NB

The minister has explicitly asked to answer the question, but she is not being allowed to—

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Conservative

Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

I have given her multiple opportunities and she hasn't, to two different questions.

Wayne Long Liberal Saint John—Rothesay, NB

Chair, she is saying that she would like to answer it right now.

Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON

I have a point of order.

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

First, on the point of order specifically as it relates to one member interrupting another member, it is the member's time. The member's time is for questioning the witness. The witness can choose to provide what information is available or can indicate that they will submit it in writing at a later time, but it is the member's time. I am lenient on both sides.

Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON

I have a point of order. It's my understanding that when a question is asked, the same amount of time that the question took should be afforded to the witness.

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

No. That's not—

Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON

That's been the general practice, has it not, Mr. Chair?

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Conservative

Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

No. That's not how it works in committee.

Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON

You can ask a question, not even wait for the answer and then just ask the question over and over again...?

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

Mr. Coteau—

Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON

It doesn't make sense.

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Conservative

Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

Can I respond to that point of order?

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

No.

Mr. Coteau, that is debate. I am going to conduct the meeting as per the rules of the House of Commons.

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Conservative

Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

Thank you, Chair.

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

The member has the floor for her time.

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Conservative

Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

I know that just for—

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

Just be careful. I would expect some courtesy to the witness, but it is your time.

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Conservative

Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

Absolutely.

I just want to point out, Chair, that obviously I want an answer from the department and the minister, but clearly they're playing games and wasting time. I've asked the same question more than once, and I'm not getting....

Please just table the answers for the committee. That would be wonderful.

In her first report, the chief accessibility officer recommended that accessibility training be mandatory. She also told this committee that it would be hard to achieve a barrier-free Canada without doing so. Do you agree with her recommendation, yes or no?

Kamal Khera Liberal Brampton West, ON

I work extremely closely with our incredible chief accessibility officer—

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Conservative

Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

Would you agree with her recommendation?

Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON

That's a perfect example, Mr. Chair.

Kamal Khera Liberal Brampton West, ON

I work really closely with her, and I—

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Conservative

Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

I asked for a yes or no. This is where this is frustrating.

Have you responded to her recommendation? What actions have you taken to ensure that accessibility training is mandated for federally regulated workplaces?

Kamal Khera Liberal Brampton West, ON

Training is an extremely important tool. That's something that we have been working alongside—