I'll start with that and then maybe Mark can share some experience from the field in Hamilton.
I think the answer is yes and no. In Alberta, for example, MP Liepert, the oil sands deferred some maintenance through COVID, so this year during the turnaround period they're actually going to have a longer shutdown period than they have had previously. They're going to require more workers than they had previously. I would see that as a temporary issue.
Moreover, in the long run, we have a structural issue with a lack of workers in the construction industry unrelated to COVID. During COVID, most of the industry right across the country continued to work. We did a really good job and were deemed essential. We looked after ourselves and worked with our contractors to make sure we stayed healthy. We kept on working.
Some workers did take that opportunity to retire, but the challenge is much more long term. It's very hard to get young people to come into the trades anymore. We're doing the best we can. We're doing the best we can to get more women and under-represented groups into the trades, but our industry really needs an influx of permanent immigration to help us with the structural challenge of labour availability over the next 25 years.
Mark, [Inaudible—Editor]