Thank you very much, Chair.
Thank you to the witnesses for being here today.
Not much of what we've heard today is dissimilar to what we heard from the two sets of witnesses who appeared at our previous meeting.
However, I would like to make this comment. I do recall the 2015 election. A particular Liberal leader campaigning against the Conservative prime minister, Stephen Harper, was very critical of omnibus legislation. I don't think we have seen a bill in this House in the last six or seven years that has more stuffed into it than this particular budget implementation act. I think this is just another example of broken promises by the Liberal government.
I think we will find out later today whether the members of this committee—the new Liberal-NDP coalition—will listen to what the witnesses have said relative to division 32 and having it removed. Obviously, we are only making a recommendation to the finance committee. It will be interesting to see whether the finance committee will be listening to this committee and then ultimately whether the finance minister and Prime Minister will be listening.
Thank you, everybody, for making your presentations, but my suggestion would be not to get your hopes too high.
I want to actually focus on the comments of Ms. Nord on division 26 because we haven't heard very much about the other divisions in our testimony.
I just wanted to ask...more for clarification than anything. It's my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, that EI does not operate independently, like the Canada pension plan. It's out of general revenue. When you're talking about a $25-billion or $29-billion debt, that's part of the federal debt, if I'm correct.
Can you elaborate on that at all, Ms. Nord?