Wages are kind of the core of the workforce issue. While they're not all there is to it, they're undeniably the core. I think in Ontario that wage floor, which is so low, and it actually is only of benefit in those instances where the lowest wages are already being paid. It brings them up to a low standard. I think a lot of people working in the sector are really offended by it.
I think coming out of the pandemic, when people working in child care worked really, really hard in difficult circumstances, it was their 15 minutes of fame. They were briefly essential. Now they're not so essential when it comes to paying them better, and even talking to this sector about what it is they want—career ladders, further education, and the opportunities you would get in better-paid work.
I agree with Ms. Farris about the workforce. It is absolutely central to the success of this program and it is absolutely essential to expansion, which is another really important issue we've touched on. I'm hearing that the workforce doesn't buy the wage floor and isn't going to come back for those kinds of wages in Ontario.