Evidence of meeting #90 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was workers.
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6:05 p.m.
Liberal
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey
I will have it reread.
I'll get the clerk to read the amendment by Mr. Fragiskatos.
November 22nd, 2023 / 6:05 p.m.
The Clerk
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
After “appear”, you would read it as “before the committee for no fewer than one hour each, in two panels of three, to consider the supplementary estimates (B).”
6:05 p.m.
Bloc
Louise Chabot Bloc Thérèse-De Blainville, QC
Thank you to the chair and the clerk.
I propose removing the part of the amendment between commas, in other words, the reference to “two panels of three”. That is my subamendment.
6:10 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey
Thank you.
Is there discussion on the subamendment by Madame Chabot?
Mr. Fragiskatos, we're now on the subamendment by Ms. Chabot.
6:10 p.m.
Liberal
Peter Fragiskatos Liberal London North Centre, ON
Since we don't have it in writing, I wonder whether we could just move to the vote on my amendment. Then, if Ms. Chabot wants to raise it at a later meeting, we can look at it.
6:10 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey
Procedure-wise, we have a subamendment before the committee. We will deal with the subamendment according to procedure.
6:10 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey
Ms. Chabot made a subamendment. It does not have to be provided in writing. The committee must deal with it.
Go ahead, Ms. Ferreri.
6:10 p.m.
Conservative
Michelle Ferreri Conservative Peterborough—Kawartha, ON
Thanks, Mr. Chair.
To Ms. Chabot's subamendment, I appreciate what she's trying to do, but I have a couple of questions here.
We're going to remove the word.... The subamendment covers this, as well. We're going to completely remove a date, according to the Liberals here. They want to make it open-ended. The ministers can come whenever they want. There is no accountability here.
Why wouldn't you want to do this now?
6:10 p.m.
Liberal
Peter Fragiskatos Liberal London North Centre, ON
It's fairly common to look at schedules and plan accordingly; plus we have other work we agreed to do. That's how committees work.
6:10 p.m.
Conservative
Michelle Ferreri Conservative Peterborough—Kawartha, ON
Mr. Chair, this is very slippery. It's odd to me, as somebody sitting here. You have ministers. You have estimates. Not only are the Liberals, right now, trying to get them to not come here for an appropriate amount of time, but they're also now removing a date, so there is no accountability on when they are going to get here. That makes zero sense. They are trying to do two things, and they are trying to be slippery with their words by adding two panels. Thank goodness for the Bloc here, which has tried to remove that with their subamendment.
Come on. This is gross.
6:10 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey
Is there discussion on the subamendment by Madame Chabot?
Madame Zarrillo, go ahead on the subamendment.
6:10 p.m.
NDP
Bonita Zarrillo NDP Port Moody—Coquitlam, BC
Mr. Chair, I have a point of order.
We're supposed to be adjourned by now. I'm wondering what.... We published that we have work to do at six and that we were doing something different, so I just want to understand. Can we adjourn for the work that we need to do in camera?
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Liberal
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NDP
Bonita Zarrillo NDP Port Moody—Coquitlam, BC
I move adjournment, because we are scheduled to be in camera at six o'clock.
6:10 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey
We can adjourn, but I would need a motion to go to the business part of the meeting. You can call for adjournment of the meeting.
6:10 p.m.
NDP
Bonita Zarrillo NDP Port Moody—Coquitlam, BC
I'd like to call for adjournment of the meeting, so we can move into the business part of this meeting.
6:10 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey
If you adjourn the meeting, the meeting is finished. You can adjourn debate, currently, then make a motion to move into business.
6:10 p.m.
NDP
Bonita Zarrillo NDP Port Moody—Coquitlam, BC
Okay. Adjourn debate, then, so we can move to committee business, please.
6:10 p.m.
Conservative
