This is our trend, and I can't speak for other food banks. For the first two months we were really scrambling when COVID hit, because we had to change our full operations. No one was allowed in the building, technically. We remained open. Then after two months, we realized that...and we went to Ontario Health and different places and said that volunteers were critical, so they had to be considered staff. There was an allowance for that, but the problem was that seniors were scared too. What happened was that a lot of people lost their jobs. For the first three or four months we were actually fine, but then after that, when people started to resume a little bit of normalcy, that's when our volunteer numbers really dropped and we were scrambling.
We were also appreciative of some of the interim funding, because traditionally food banks never had any federal or provincial funding. I'm not saying they don't get it through grants or those types of things, but it was helpful, because it was needed in that COVID pandemic situation.
I'm not trying to overstate this, but I think right now we're in a bigger crisis than we were before, and that's a statement. When I bring this together, anything that helps us to provide an opportunity for volunteers, whether they're university students or right across the board, any structure or funding or awareness, I think, is a win for every not-for-profit. Sometimes not-for-profits go under the radar, when they need to be put up a little bit more on the radar, no matter what not-for-profit it may be.