Thanks, Mr. Chair.
We hear what we hear, I guess, is what it comes down to. What I hear is that my colleague isn't quite familiar with the fact that the housing situation in this country is in a crisis. The previous minister wouldn't use the word. The current minister does actually use the word, but it seems his parliamentary secretary isn't seized with the matter.
I think the interim CEO is the interim CEO because they have a certain skill set and knowledge and understanding of the organization and the issues, and that's why they're there. If they're not capable of speaking to committee, then they shouldn't be the interim CEO, I suppose.
The fact of the matter is that this is a delay tactic. I recognize that the minister doesn't like the photo ops he gets here rather than out around the country, but that's what we're here for—to raise the issues that matter to this country and the people of this country. This is the most pressing issue our country is facing right now.
I'm looking at one of my colleagues here who used to be a city councillor. I was reading about one of his former colleagues—