It's an urgent process now. They're laying off staff because they can't afford to operate with rising costs, with rising numbers of people to serve. So it is a very urgent problem in many agencies in British Columbia.
I want to go to one other question.
Minister, I'd be remiss if I didn't ask why the commitment to the Refugee Appeal Division isn't in these estimates. Again, this is something that every immigrant and refugee-serving agency in the country and some international agencies have called for, and it's in the law. Yet successive ministers, including you, have refused to abide by the law and implement the RAD. It appears that this is happening yet again, and I just wonder if you can explain again why.