I'm at a bit of a disadvantage, because I worked under that regime for...well, I came in 2002, so I worked about a year under the previous format.
The advisory committee to the minister did the interviews through some criteria, and there was a test. That came to a final group chaired by Mr. Poulin, who was appointed by the government. There were people appointed by the government in the advisory group. I was the chair, and I was only one vote.