Evidence of meeting #19 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was process.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jean-Guy Fleury  Chairperson, Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada
Timothy Morin  Acting Senior General Counsel, Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. William Farrell

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Chairperson, Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada

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NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

On the question of the advertising program, was that an initiative of the government or was that an initiative of the IRB?

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Chairperson, Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada

Jean-Guy Fleury

It was an initiative of the government, and the minister, in our discussion...there was a concern that maybe by limiting ourselves to self-identification, if we did it publicly more often we would draw more, wider, and I agree.

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NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

You said you couldn't say how many people were currently before the panel. How many people are currently before the government who have been recommended after the panel process?

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Chairperson, Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada

Jean-Guy Fleury

I thought you were asking about how many people I would have referred for appointment. That's the pool.

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NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

That was going to be my next question.

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Chairperson, Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada

Jean-Guy Fleury

That one is advice to minister. The people coming in front of us...there are 300-and-some who have applied. Once we screen for the basics, they will come in front of the panel. The panel will sit in two to three weeks from now, and we will look at the results of the test, we will look at their application, we will look at their track record. The panel--and I'm there for discussion purposes--will recommend the people who should be interviewed.

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NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

So all 300 would take the test and go to the panel?

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Chairperson, Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada

Jean-Guy Fleury

We screened out 45, so 300 will end up in front of the panel for consideration.

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NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

You've expressed some frustration about the number of vacancies you have on the board at this time.

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Chairperson, Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada

Jean-Guy Fleury

I wouldn't say “frustration”. I expressed the facts.

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NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

It sounds like frustration when I read it in your statement, but to whom do you express that in the government? Who gets that directly? To whom do you express the concern about the vacancies on the board and the ability of the board to do that job?

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Chairperson, Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada

Jean-Guy Fleury

I meet with the minister—not often, but I do meet with the minister. We talk about my requirements and we talk about the need for appointments and reappointments. It's discussion about the state of the union within the board, and it's a good dialogue.

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NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

And how many appointments and reappointments have been made since February 2006?

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Chairperson, Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada

Jean-Guy Fleury

There have been eight recruitments and twelve reappointments.

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NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

So there were eight new people and twelve were reappointed.

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Chairperson, Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada

Jean-Guy Fleury

Eight would have been selected from the people we qualified and twelve would have been reappointed.

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NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

When you were last here, you said you had hoped to be able to report that the backlog was under 20,000 cases.

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Chairperson, Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada

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NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

You said it had been consistently around 20,500 or 20,300.

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Chairperson, Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada

Jean-Guy Fleury

After I left, we reached 19,800.

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NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

Is that what it currently is then?

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Chairperson, Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada

Jean-Guy Fleury

No, it's 20,500, and we'll probably end up at 24,000 to 25,000 in April at the rate we're going.

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NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

So the backlog is rapidly increasing again then, eh?

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Chairperson, Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada