You could argue that, but I don't know how it is that we're going to be talking to the Harkat family and the advocates on behalf of them specifically when we're looking at issues relating to refugees. But if we're going to, then perhaps we need to extend that to include everyone who has an impact on those issues, which may include, say, ministers who were there at that time or other people, that kind of thing.
But I think we're going way adrift on the security certificates. Initially I thought we were just going to do a visit to Kingston, and I thought, fair enough, I haven't seen Kingston and perhaps we should see it. But then we said we'd bring in department officials--