Thank you, Chair, and thank you to all the witnesses for being with us this morning.
I just want to put on the record that I have a motion on the order paper of the House of Commons calling for a repeal of the security certificate sections of IRPA, because I believe they're unnecessary. I do agree that the Criminal Code can deal with these, and if there are problems with the Criminal Code, then we should address those problems with the Criminal Code. That would be the appropriate way of proceeding.
I did want to ask Ms. El-Fouli a question. You talked about your sons, Ibraim and Yusuf. How do you explain it to them? They've had to deal with this situation, I guess for most of their lives, where their father's been in detention. When they ask why he's there, how do you respond to them?