Karen, in your presentation you mentioned the inadequacies of the health coverage that refugees get, the difficulties around transportation and interpretation, and how there doesn't seem to be any particular support for those kinds of programs.
Could you tell us a bit more about the transportation issue, for instance? Burnaby is a suburban community, but many of the services that are available are delivered in Vancouver. Can you tell us a little about how that affects a refugee family as to how much time they would spend travelling, the distances involved?