If I could just respond a bit, in 2004, around the time of this case in Quebec City, the then Minister of Immigration, Judy Sgro, made some remarks about sanctuary and she invited the heads of all the churches to come and meet with her. At that time I was the president of the Canadian Conference of Bishops, so I did have an opportunity to meet with her and with people from the different churches that are working in this area.
Certainly the impression I got was that all of the churches would rather get out of this sanctuary business, if you want to call it that. In other words, we're not really in favour of this at all. But because we feel that there are these situations where there is no second look at the merits of the case.... There are procedural methods; you could have the case looked at in terms of its legality and what not. But to really take a look at it, there was the feeling that it is really not fair for one person to be able to make that kind of determination.
But as I say, I think if this process were in place now, the churches probably would still be complaining that some terrible thing has happened to somebody, and I'm sure that would be the case, but I think we'd have less reason for doing that.