Thank you, Mr. Frecker, for being here. And thank you for dredging up your thoughts on the report. I know I have difficulty remembering what I did last week, let alone several years ago. So I appreciate your getting ready for that.
I also want to thank Madame Faille for suggesting that you come today. I think it's been very helpful to hear your comments on the RAD and the process, to hear your argument that it actually simplifies the process. I think that's very helpful for us to hear.
On the discussion you were just having with Madame Faille about the cost to the provinces, just so I'm clear, the $1.2 million to $2.6 million was the estimated cost to the federal government in increased legal aid costs. And the provinces, you estimated at the time, would see an increased cost for legal aid of $6 million to $9 million. Is that correct?