I'm sure that Mr. Jaffer certainly has done his homework. If so, he would find out that citizenship judges have an impact on people's lives. As well, they have judicial review. We moved the citizenship part away from a judge, and only when there are questions that affect people's lives—if they become a citizen or not—does it go to the judge. Then an individual appears in front of a judge, and gives evidence and questions. The judge has a means of making decisions. So the citizenship judge is not just somebody who sits up and swears people in. He also has powers.
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