Evidence of meeting #33 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was safe.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Deborah Anker  Clinical Professor of Law, Immigration and Refugee Program, Harvard Law School
Francisco Rico-Martinez  Co-Director, FCJ Refugee Centre, As an Individual
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. William Farrell

1 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Mr. Siksay.

1 p.m.

NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

Thank you, Chair.

I hear the suggestion, and I don't know when we're going to discuss that, but I also want to suggest that if we go on Monday to Kingston, we go first thing in the morning and come back that day. That way we'd maybe save some of the overnight costs that are in the budget.

I think we can probably do that in the same day.

1 p.m.

An hon. member

I'm just curious to know where I am here—

1:05 p.m.

Mr. William Farrell

The Clerk of the Committee

Mr. Chair, can I read this?

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Yes.

1:05 p.m.

The Clerk

Andrew wants to have the officials on February 19. Then on February 26 we start our witnesses, after which we have a two-week break.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Let's pay attention, members, so that we'll know what's going on here.

1:05 p.m.

The Clerk

On March 19 we have witnesses and on March 26 we have witnesses.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Could you read it again, please, Mr. Chair?

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Yes.

On February 19 we will have the minister and officials, on February 26 we will have witnesses, and on March 19 we will have witnesses. We don't know if March 26 will be necessary, but we'll have four meetings if necessary. We'll monitor that and find out. We can do that.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON

Mr. Chair, I also said that if we extend the—instead of being here two hours. Because once the witnesses get here, we might want to sit until 1:30 instead of 1 o'clock.

I'm very confident, given the witnesses we have, that we will want to have that fourth meeting in there.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Yes, and we probably will.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON

No, no, but we have to arrange it now. We want to have three meetings, which would take us up to March 26.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

There's an additional problem: will our budget cover that?

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON

Oh, yes. We're paying for the people coming in. That's our cost. We want to get value for our money.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Okay.

1:05 p.m.

The Clerk

Mr. Chair, with regard to Mr. Siksay's request, I do not know how long it takes CBSA to approve people—

1:05 p.m.

NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

My understanding is that for MPs, they require only 24 hours' notice for visits.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

The second thing is—

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Is this to visit Kingston?

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Yes.

[Technical difficulty—Editor]—leaders, the subcommittee on liaison would have to approve the budget. So you're saying that people should talk to their respective House leaders to see if that can be done.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

On that, Mr. Chair, there is a motion for Tuesday that asks that we allow media to come with us. I'm wondering if Mr. Siksay would agree that we deal with that motion first on Tuesday, and possibly do something else.

It is important that not only we as individuals are able to see them; in view of what the minister has said and in view of their living conditions, independent witnesses must also—

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

We need unanimous consent on that.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Well, there is a motion on the floor. There is a motion for Tuesday.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

No, there's no motion.