I can answer Mr. Siksay's question.
We might have met with some of these individuals. If we met them the first time, we certainly didn't meet them the second time.
Members of the committee from the Conservative side were with us on that first one. They were not with us the second time.
Since the first time we were there, the deterioration of the situation in Kingston has progressed. These individuals certainly have to come to answer to the means and decisions that we're making.