Yes, and I think we could also mention this point when we're in televised hearings on Monday.
The other thing is I think it's important for us to serve notice to the officials that they cannot come before committee and bamboozle us with misinformation and do it with impunity. I hate to say that this has happened over time. Rahim and Nina, and anybody who has sat around this table for any period of time knows that has occurred. I think it's important that the officials understand that when they come to this committee, they're supposed to be here to provide us with the facts and certainly not to bamboozle us. I've seen it so often on different issues: they take something that a committee member tries to do, and in the case of provision of sureties, they come in and twist and politicize an issue that was never meant to be treated in such fashion. So it will do well for us in the long term to have the department understand that they cannot do that in this committee and get away with it.