I have heard what Mr. Telegdi has said, and he says it colourfully, but basically what he says is that when you become minister, the bureaucracy gains control of you, and that explains why all these ministers wouldn't do it. It's an interesting question whether, if Mr. Telegdi had ever been made minister, he would have been taken over as well.
That aside, I think we owe it to ourselves and to Parliament and to Canadians that we think this through. This is not just a political thing to be kicked back and forth. I think there are some good questions we need to look at, and it doesn't seem to me that some of my colleagues want to take the time to look at those questions.