Well, yes, that actually brings me back to the first question you asked me. I think the fundamental change after 9/11 was bringing in indefinite detention. The whole focus of SIAC, in fact all the SIAC cases practically, not all of them but the vast majority, were detention cases.
In that sense, we're quite different from the particular thing that you're dealing with, security certificates, because the premise upon which detention was based was that it would not be possible to remove this person to the country of origin because he would face the risk of torture or something else.