Citizenship and Immigration Committee on June 19th, 2007

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

Just hold on one moment, please. I can't entertain four or five different people at the same time. I'm trying to deal with Mr. Komarnicki. I think I've been fairly lenient in getting everyone on the list here, so please be patient for a moment, would you, until I get Mr. Komarnicki's point dealt with.

[Jim Karygiannis, Liberal, Scarborough—Agincourt, ON]

On that point, chair—

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

I'm not prepared to deal with that point until I'm finished dealing with Mr. Komarnicki and the clerk. Then I will go to you, if you don't mind.

[Jim Karygiannis, Liberal, Scarborough—Agincourt, ON]

On a point of order, Mr. Chair, can you tell us why the meeting of the—

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

That is not a point of order.

[Jim Karygiannis, Liberal, Scarborough—Agincourt, ON]

Yes, it is. I need to have clarification on why the meeting was dissolved.

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

You will get clarification after I deal with Mr. Komarnicki and the clerk. Then I will go to you. Please exercise a little patience here.

The question again is, was there an official request made?

[Ed Komarnicki, Conservative, Souris—Moose Mountain, SK]

In the committee, and what was the undertaking or response? There would obviously be a transcript or something saying what the request was and what the agreement to provide was. I'd like to know what that is, because that's what should be provided. I realize a request was made of some kind. However, do we have what was specifically requested and what the undertaking was? That is what I'd like to identify.

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

Do you have that information, Mr. Clerk?

[The Clerk]

On the first point about a specific statement made in committee, I do not have the exact date or the meeting number when that was requested. I do recall Madame Faille requesting detailed statistics including the history of the issue.

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

So Madame Faille requested the statistics. Did she make that request here in the committee?

[The Clerk]

That's what I believe. I can research to find the exact meeting where that was stated.

[Ed Komarnicki, Conservative, Souris—Moose Mountain, SK]

What was requested, what was agreed to be provided—that's the response we would want.

[The Clerk]

Secondly, I believe I had sent an e-mail. With all witnesses, we request that they provide something in writing in advance, such as a briefing note.

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

And that went to departmental officials?

[Ed Komarnicki, Conservative, Souris—Moose Mountain, SK]

That's not my question. Let's not get off my question.

[The Clerk]

To clarify that, I recall specifying that committee members would like to have more detailed statistics on the history of the issue.

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

Was there any reply from—

[Ed Komarnicki, Conservative, Souris—Moose Mountain, SK]

I appreciate what you may have requested and what you said, and I'm not taking away from that, but I'm asking specifically, what was the request by the member?

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

Order.

[Jim Karygiannis, Liberal, Scarborough—Agincourt, ON]

On a point of order, Chair, this is not a monologue between you and Mr. Komarnicki. Mr. Komarnicki put a question down. Let the clerk answer and let's move on here.

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

Order, please. There is no point of order.

[Ed Komarnicki, Conservative, Souris—Moose Mountain, SK]

We're in the process of discussion, if you don't mind.

[Blair Wilson, Liberal, West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country, BC]

It's not a conversation.

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

Order.