Evidence of meeting #10 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was citizenship.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Andrew Chaplin
William Janzen  Director, Ottawa Office, Mennonite Central Committee Canada
Melynda Jarratt  Historian, Canadian War Brides
Don Chapman  Lost Canadian Organization

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Yes, very good.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON

It is that we unanimously pass a motion that we're calling on the government to table the bill as quickly as possible so that it comes in front of this committee, that it be sent to this committee; we want that reported to the House immediately, and we want to get to work on it.

Fish or cut bait.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

Can I propose—

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

You've heard the motion. For discussion of the motion, let's do this in an orderly fashion. I have several hands here. The clerk is taking note of that for discussion of the motion.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

I'm asking for an amendment.

5:10 p.m.

Bloc

Thierry St-Cyr Bloc Jeanne-Le Ber, QC

I have a point of order.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

No, just a minute. I started—

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

A point of order takes precedence over the motion.

Mr. St-Cyr.

5:10 p.m.

Bloc

Thierry St-Cyr Bloc Jeanne-Le Ber, QC

The witnesses who are on the agenda were asked a number of questions. Before we debate the motion, I think we should be sure there are no more questions. I, personally, do not have any, and I think we have pretty well covered it.

If there are no further questions, I would suggest that we release our witnesses, who are not required to witness what goes on here, which does not always present us in a positive light.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

I think that's a very good point.

Would you be in favour of having the witnesses dismissed now? The witnesses can take their seats at the back, if they wish, and we can get into doing the motion that needs to be done.

Mr. Telegdi.

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON

Prior to the witnesses leaving...very quickly, do you agree with the course of action that we just proposed in the motion?

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Since we're into discussion now, I'm going to go to final wrap-up comments of witnesses, and then we'll entertain Mr. Telegdi's motion. How's that? Fine?

Ms. Chow, do you have a comment first? No? Okay.

5:10 p.m.

Lost Canadian Organization

Don Chapman

Since we were on the issue of heroes, I have to say there were two real outstanding heroes through all these years—because I've been doing this an awfully long time. One of them is John Reynolds, and one of them is Andrew Telegdi. Without those two people, we would not be here today.

Along the way, over these years, we've added others. Meili Faille has been fabulous, and Bill Siksay as well.

So I want to thank this committee for doing this. It seems that every time we come, we have a lot of contention, but thank you. Thank you very much.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Thank you very much, Mr. Chapman, Ms. Jarratt, and Mr. Janzen, for your comments here today.

I detect that Ms. Jarratt has something she is very anxious to say—briefly.

5:10 p.m.

Historian, Canadian War Brides

Melynda Jarratt

I resent the tension between the political parties. It's like World War II. The Allies banded together, and you had people from many different countries, from many different political stripes, who banded together to fight one common enemy. They got together on D-Day, and they stormed the beaches, and they got the job done. Out of that, we have thousands and thousands of Canadian veterans, many of whom are the fathers and husbands of war brides, and the fathers of these children.

We need to see the end to this. I really can't believe we're getting this far and these issues are coming up. I really want to see the end of this.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

I'm sure we all do. Thank you, Ms. Jarratt.

I think I'll go to the last wrap-up comments.

Mr. Janzen, you're finished?

Now, Mr. Carrier, you have a comment before the witnesses go?

5:10 p.m.

Bloc

Robert Carrier Bloc Alfred-Pellan, QC

I would simply like to thank Mr. Chapman for the delicious oranges he gave us. I really appreciated the gesture.

5:10 p.m.

Lost Canadian Organization

Don Chapman

I have a few left over, but I'm afraid the committee could really fight over them.

5:10 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Thank you, Mr. Chapman, Mr. Janzen, and Ms. Jarratt. Thank you very much.

We'll dismiss our witnesses--

5:10 p.m.

Some hon. members

Hear, hear!

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Thank you. That's very much in order.

We'll go back to Mr. Telegdi, who has a motion on the floor asking for unanimous consent. Did you all get what the motion was?

5:10 p.m.

Some hon. members

Yes.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Okay, so now on that, we'll go to Mr. Komarnicki for discussion of it, and then over to Ms. Chow.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

Mr. Chair, it's not discussion. I raised my hand to say I want to propose an amendment that says everything he said, with the words “without amendment”, and I ask that this question be debated or put to a vote.