Evidence of meeting #14 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was application.
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3:55 p.m.
Conservative
3:55 p.m.
NDP
Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON
Perhaps I can circulate for Monday, then, the memo that clearly shows the right hand not agreeing with the left hand--i.e., “You should do it within 60 days”, and “You should give a deferral.”
So I'll circulate that.
4 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
That's fine.
This means we won't deal with Mr. Telegdi's motion, obviously, and we won't be dealing with Mr. Karygiannis' motion, because he's not here to talk about it.
4 p.m.
NDP
Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON
On a separate issue, on the safe third country, now that we've dealt with this one, can we talk very briefly about the other motion? Or should we do this in camera? It's up to you.
4 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
I don't think we'd do that now. We had three motions on. If we're going to discuss safe third country, I think we need some notice that we are going to discuss it. I would think we'll do that--
4 p.m.
NDP
Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON
No, I don't mean actually discussing the issue itself; I'm talking about discussing the process where we would make the decision.
4 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
No, I don't think we'd do that now. It's not on the agenda, so I don't think people would want to do that.
4 p.m.
NDP
4 p.m.
NDP
4 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
We'll go to the scheduling, and we will go in camera to do that.
The clerk can inform us when we're in camera.
Yes, Mr. Telegdi.
4 p.m.
Liberal
Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON
Just on that, Mr. Chair, when we have the officials in, do we have other people, those who are actually going through the process, coming in as witnesses? They can tell us--
4 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
I think we said we could bring in one or two. I don't think we should belabour it too much.
4 p.m.
An hon. member
Just one.
4 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
Just one would be good enough. If we could find one, we could bring them in.
4 p.m.
Liberal
Maurizio Bevilacqua Liberal Vaughan, ON
Just make sure you don't exclude people who would want to be invited, because that opens up a whole different sort of issue: why me, why this person, why not the other? I just want you to know that you're going to open yourself up to that.
[Proceedings continue in camera]
[Public proceedings resume]
4:35 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
Before we do anything, let's clarify that third report. It says that “The Committee give the following priority to its studies” and “refugee issues” was marked in it, but it was specifically Iraqi refugees. That's understood by all, isn't it? It's “Iraqi refugees, temporary foreign workers, undocumented workers, and immigration consultants”.
We are no longer in camera and we are talking about supplementary estimates.
Where was I?
4:35 p.m.
Conservative
4:35 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
Okay. It's understood too that we were going to talk about Bill C-17, possibly when we get back, or if there was a date available beforehand, we would be talking about Bill C-17 also.
We have a request in to bring the minister before our committee for supplementary estimates, and the news on that happens to be—
4:40 p.m.
Liberal
Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON
Mr. Chair, I was wondering for the public record if the clerk would give us, on record and in public, what has transpired since the request went in for the minister to come in front of this committee to give us the supplementary estimates and to go through them.
4:40 p.m.
The Clerk
Sir, I sent a request by e-mail last Wednesday, following the meeting of the subcommittee on agenda and procedure. The response to it has been that the minister can neither appear next Wednesday, the 6th, nor Monday the 11th. The request asked that if neither of those dates was feasible an alternate be proposed, and I've heard nothing back from the department on the idea of an alternate—
