I definitely agree that we do need, we are going to need, and we can't absorb more immigrants than we're getting now. I think we often forget that it isn't just our choice that we are competing with the entire world for capable immigrants, whether they have the training and the skills we need or whether they're capable of acquiring that once they get here.
I had the privilege of working for Parliament, for the then-Minister of Immigration, to write a report about 10 years ago called Not just numbers/Au-delà des chiffres, which looked very comprehensively at the entire immigration program, including refugees. We looked at the idea of attracting a class of people we called the new pioneers, people who did not necessarily have a pile of credentials that would give them points under today's system, but who did have the set of hard and soft skills—and the soft skills are harder to measure—that they could be the new pioneers and could develop and contribute to Canada as previous generations did.