I think there should be a decision first on whether it's a procedural or a substantive motion.
On the position on the press, it's certainly obvious from some of the comments that there may be a measure of grandstanding for political and biased purposes when we're here to hear from witnesses on what they have to say on specific issues, which we'll eventually write a report on. Certainly the press is there before and after to ask questions, but during the meeting it is as open for us to have the press in as not--