Thank you very much.
Obviously we can talk about the numbers, and that's something that would need to be settled. My understanding is that you're saying there's sort of an optimum absorption number, and that's where you should start from and work from that point. Is that correct?
If I were to just go back to the undocumented workers, I think perhaps one or both of you mentioned that those individuals are here primarily because, as you indicate, there isn't some legitimate way for them to come in to meet some of the needs the country is facing on the economic stream. Would it be fair to say that what I'm hearing from you is that you're looking for some reform or change to the way we do things with immigration, to better align it with what the needs of the country might be economically, and of course apportioning that appropriately between the economy, family reunification, and our obligations with respect to refugees? I guess I'm asking you whether you are looking for us to come up with new means and ways to accommodate what the country needs. I'll ask you first, and then you can pass it on.