Exactly. They wouldn't fit in the experienced class. There is really no hope for them to become landed immigrants. There is no hope for them to bring their family members to Canada. As a result, some of them are being told by some of the consultants, “Then why don't you apply for refugee status?” It then mucks up the refugee determination process.
The last I saw, at the Immigration and Refugee Board, partially because the Conservative government has not appointed a good number of panellists to it, the backlog is tremendous. It's probably going to grow in a year or two to 85,000. It's huge. So what's happening is that the entire system is being bogged down by temporary foreign workers who have no chance to stay. Perhaps, for some of them, their visa has expired. As a result, they apply for refugee status, it mucks up the status, and then some of them end up getting deported. It costs us $23 million to do that.
The entire system, to quote the minister, is crumbling. That is what she said on CBC Radio. Surely there's a better way to handle this whole mess.