It goes back to about 22 years ago when we first formed, and I was the founding president. We formed the Association of Immigration Counsel of Canada and we always wanted to go into the regulations.
Eventually, when the ministry appointed this advisory committee--and I was one of the members of the advisory committee and I know all the proceedings--suggestions from right across Canada were made by the advisory committee, and we had a lot of input from different individuals and different organizations.
If I remember correctly, there were three consultants on that advisory committee: me, John Ryan, and Jill Sparling. The others were a couple of NGOs, and I think there were four or five very prominent lawyers from the industry. So the whole thing was dominated by the lawyers, and when I say dominated by the lawyers, I mean for guidance, not to impose anything, but there was a lot of guidance from the lawyers. I remember one or two people from Quebec, and I forgot the man's name--Patrice Brunet, I think his name is.
So in-depth consultations were held as to how to create CSIC, and eventually it was done. The minister wanted to do it, we wanted to do it, and finally it was done. But yes, there was input from various organizations and various people before it was created.