No, no, what I'm saying--maybe it was a weird way of saying it. What I was trying to say in these parentheses is that whatever the number of years, these women will never be entitled to ask for permanent status. This is contrary to the LCP worker, to the live-in caregiver program. In the case of these women, if their employer doesn't authorize a switch to the LCP, they won't have any rights even after--
On April 14th, 2008. See this statement in context.