So it's like the drug business. The money involved in the drug business is there. Whatever we want to do, the financial motivations of people are in this so much.
I'll give you an example. We introduced this system of licensing consultants, and particularly giving points in the job offer. So even if I have minimum English and meet the 67-point requirement....
There was a leading law firm in Toronto. A lot of the consultants and lawyers started making HRDC-approved job offers to people abroad because it gave them 15 points. That law firm approached me in my law firm and said, “If you have a federal applicant who cannot make 67 points, pass them on to us. We can find them an HRDC-approved job and they will get 15 points.” When I asked how much he charged, he said it was $15,000. I said, “Look, I don't know your operation. I don't know how you do it, but with the fees you are trying to charge me, I don't think it's a legitimate operation.” That's exactly what happened. Six months later the RCMP found—