I think we're talking about two kinds of human resources here. First of all, we're talking about the very public human resources of employable people with appropriate skills to do the kinds of things that are at a high level in our economy.
On the other hand, I think it's really important that we look at the human resources to do the human resource kind of work that's required. Donna and I are retired, Jose is living on welfare, and that's how come we can do the volunteer work that we do. We can't keep doing this forever. We have to have some way of really developing the human resources in the community, in the human services sector and the voluntary sector, in order to be able to do a good job of making this a humane, possible, and attractive place for immigrants both to come and to stay. And until we do some work in that area, it's not going to happen.