I think it's unreasonable to expect all of you and the minister and possibly even those at the deputy minister level to really understand the heart and soul of the immigration act at the level that changes can really be implemented. It's a bit like saying to someone in the medical committee that they might know a lot about medicine, but they're not a doctor and I wouldn't let them operate on me. Sorry if I've used that analogy before.
The point is that it's up to the individuals who understand the system in depth--those who live in it, work in it, including the department, the practitioners, and other interest groups--to say these are the real guts of the changes. These decisions or recommendations should then go to the minister, after consultation, for action. And how the minister chooses to act on those issues is absolutely the prerogative of Parliament.