Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
I think the importance of the appearance of these witnesses relates to what we are dealing with: a real problem with the point system that was put in place in 2002. The question is how we got it so wrong. The studies came out; the proof is in the pudding.
How did the process work, whereby the point system was devised? The point system wasn't put in place by the committee; it was done by regulation, it was done by the bureaucracy, and it was put through with a lot of people having a great deal of concern about it.
Here is the other issue I want to raise, and I say this to all the members. I ask you, Mr. Chair, to make copies available to the members of the decision by the judge in the Dragan case, who actually named both of you for being less than forthcoming with the committee.