Evidence of meeting #44 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was instructions.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Richard Fadden  Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Les Linklater  Director General, Immigration Branch, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Andrea Lyon  Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic and Program Policy, Department of Citizenship and Immigration Canada
Joan Atkinson  Visiting Assistant Deputy Minister, Canada Public Service Agency, As an Individual
Daniel Jean  Associate Secretary, Senior Associate Secretary's Office, Treasury Board Secretariat, As an Individual

7 p.m.

Associate Secretary, Senior Associate Secretary's Office, Treasury Board Secretariat, As an Individual

Daniel Jean

Various mechanisms apply. From an administrative standpoint, the minister can adjust the passing grade. New regulations can be made. Legislative changes can be brought in if the legislation is no longer deemed adequate. Various options are possible, depending on what you are trying to achieve.

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Bloc

Thierry St-Cyr Bloc Jeanne-Le Ber, QC

Is the method for calculating points set out in the act? Does the legislation specify the number of points allocated when an applicant satisfies a particular criterion, or does it merely stipulate that the minister or a particular agency decides how many points are awarded in such instances?

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Associate Secretary, Senior Associate Secretary's Office, Treasury Board Secretariat, As an Individual

Daniel Jean

The selection grid is subject to regulations.

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Visiting Assistant Deputy Minister, Canada Public Service Agency, As an Individual

Joan Atkinson

That's right.

May 13th, 2008 / 7 p.m.

Associate Secretary, Senior Associate Secretary's Office, Treasury Board Secretariat, As an Individual

Daniel Jean

If you wanted to adjust the criteria used, you would need to go the regulatory route.

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Bloc

Thierry St-Cyr Bloc Jeanne-Le Ber, QC

The regulations are adopted by Cabinet. Is that correct?

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Associate Secretary, Senior Associate Secretary's Office, Treasury Board Secretariat, As an Individual

Daniel Jean

Some of the regulations made under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act must be tabled to the standing committee for discussion purposes.

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Bloc

Thierry St-Cyr Bloc Jeanne-Le Ber, QC

I understand.

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Visiting Assistant Deputy Minister, Canada Public Service Agency, As an Individual

Joan Atkinson

Any regulations must also be published for a few weeks in the Canada Gazette for public consultation purposes.

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Bloc

Thierry St-Cyr Bloc Jeanne-Le Ber, QC

Is the system simple enough so that prospective immigrants can determine if they have enough points to qualify? Can a prospective immigrant calculate fairly accurately the number of points he would receive and thus find out if he possibly qualifies by logging on to the website or by completing a form?

7 p.m.

Associate Secretary, Senior Associate Secretary's Office, Treasury Board Secretariat, As an Individual

Daniel Jean

Prospective immigrants can use the calculator on the departmental website. It works a bit like a mortgage calculator.

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Visiting Assistant Deputy Minister, Canada Public Service Agency, As an Individual

Joan Atkinson

One of the goals of the new selection system is to enable individuals to assess more easily their own chances of being accepted.

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Thank you.

Ms. Chow.

7:05 p.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

In some provinces, actors and actresses are required to get labour market opinions--if I need someone to come in and act. Is that your recollection in the case of all provinces?

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Associate Secretary, Senior Associate Secretary's Office, Treasury Board Secretariat, As an Individual

Daniel Jean

I don't know what the current rules are; I can speak about what the rules were.... Are you talking about coming in as an immigrant or as a temporary worker?

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NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

A temporary worker.

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Associate Secretary, Senior Associate Secretary's Office, Treasury Board Secretariat, As an Individual

Daniel Jean

As a temporary worker, normally they're coming for a major production.

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NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

Let's say you're from the United States.

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Associate Secretary, Senior Associate Secretary's Office, Treasury Board Secretariat, As an Individual

Daniel Jean

If they're coming for a key role in a major production, they would be exempt from the labour validation.

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NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

Why is that the case? Can we not say Canadians can meet that requirement and therefore they should not be sent?

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Associate Secretary, Senior Associate Secretary's Office, Treasury Board Secretariat, As an Individual

Daniel Jean

The rationale is as follows: if you look at cities that have become major shooting places—Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal--over the years, by allowing these productions, their key actors, and some of their key people to come, you've seen an emerging cinema industry where some of our cameramen in Vancouver, Montreal, and Toronto are now some of the best in the world, and they shoot films elsewhere as well, so it has created economic benefits.

7:05 p.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

I understand that because I am from Toronto.

What would be the reason behind HRSDC not requiring it? For example, we can show that Canadian actors or artists can fulfill that role.

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Associate Secretary, Senior Associate Secretary's Office, Treasury Board Secretariat, As an Individual

Daniel Jean

If you have a Hollywood production, by bringing in this Australian or American actor, the benefits for the rest of the production that would derive to Canadians are so great that it's worth doing that.

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NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

That decision is made through HRSDC or CIC, in your past knowledge?

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Associate Secretary, Senior Associate Secretary's Office, Treasury Board Secretariat, As an Individual

Daniel Jean

In the regulations and in the exemptions that are in the schedules to the regulations, you have the description of what is applied to these situations in terms of rules.