Evidence of meeting #15 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was refugees.
A recording is available from Parliament.
10:40 a.m.
NDP
Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON
I will amend that to refer it to the meeting on May 26 instead of to the steering committee. Or we could deal with it now.
10:40 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative David Tilson
I don't know what you're doing. Are you making an amendment to the motion? You've made several suggestions. It's not multiple choice here.
10:40 a.m.
Conservative
Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON
As I understand it, a motion to refer is not debatable or amendable, but you could clarify that for me, Mr. Chair.
10:40 a.m.
Conservative
Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON
If we move this to the steering committee, I'm prepared to take into consideration, when we have this discussion, Ms. Chow, that May 26 would be the day, but I think we should make that determination at the steering committee.
10:40 a.m.
Bloc
Thierry St-Cyr Bloc Jeanne-Le Ber, QC
Mr. Chairman, I don't think there's any reason to amend the agenda. Following the appearance of the witnesses, the clause-by-clause consideration is scheduled. That's what we had agreed on together. We have spoken informally with Mr. Fadden. I believe we have indeed considered all aspects of the question. We could continue asking questions for 10 hours, but as we have seen, there are two sides. That's obvious. We won't convince each other. I don't see how any dilatory measures would be appropriate. I think the only solution is to do what's on the agenda. Let's proceed with the vote; committee members will then be able to move on to something else.
We've just adopted an agenda, but Mr. Dykstra's motion has the effect of immediately undoing it. I don't think that's appropriate. Let's proceed as planned.
10:45 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative David Tilson
I have ruled the motion is in order. I guess the question I'm trying to get some assistance on is whether Ms. Chow can amend it. If you'll give me a minute, I'll rule on that.
10:45 a.m.
NDP
Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON
Mr. Chair, on a point of order, I looked at the third report. The third report gives a work plan. Should we go right into this work plan and make sure we adopt or change it right now? If we change this, it will then obviously deal with it, because that's what that motion does, it's to change this work plan. We should bring forward the third report, decide how we plan for the next few weeks, between now and June 2, so once we deal with it, we will either come to a vote or not come to a vote on this Immigration and Refugee Protection Act.
10:45 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative David Tilson
Ms. Chow, are you suggesting a specific...? You were saying this matter should be referred to a subcommittee. You're not suggesting that at all.
10:45 a.m.
Conservative
10:45 a.m.
NDP
Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON
Mr. Chair, I was simply noting that we are starting to debate the third report. I thought we should either finish this item, or not, and I thought that--
10:45 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative David Tilson
We're going to debate the third report in camera. Meanwhile, we have a motion on the floor.
10:45 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative David Tilson
Well, it doesn't, not really.
Is there any further debate on this motion?
(Motion agreed to) [See Minutes of Proceedings]
We will now adjourn and go in camera.
[Proceedings continue in camera]