Mr. Waldman, would you tell us why a second tier would help? We did hear that going to the Federal Court is adequate and that people can apply for H and C, humanitarian and compassionate, while they're waiting. H and C can take up to four years, and then they can go to Federal Court.
Which is more feasible, going to Federal Court with a lawyer or going to the RAD on a second level, and which will cost less to the applicant or to the refugee claimant in terms of legal fees, for example?