Okay.
Mr. Waldman, you're a practising immigration lawyer. Because I have you in front of me, I will ask you briefly to answer some questions about how billing works for immigration lawyers. I've heard Mr. St-Cyr on this and I've reviewed testimony from previous Liberal and Conservative ministers with respect to an appeals division, so I've heard all of these comments before and want to go in a different direction.
I want to know the costs associated with appeals to an appeals division. I want you to explain to me, briefly if you can, how you bill. Is it by the hour? Do you take a retainer? What would an appeal to an appeals division cost somebody seeking that appeal?
I'm going to suggest—and you can comment on this—that the addition of an appeals division would certainly add a very attractive new revenue source for certain lawyers practising in the immigration field. So I hope you will give me some comments on that.