I think there needs to be a national vision of where it's headed. As Tim and another one of your colleagues rightly pointed out, with some of the regulated professions, there is a necessary provincial lead role because of the jurisdictional issues. But I think we set immigration policy federally. This is about building a nation. It's about economic building. So I think the way in which we engage employers as a shared partner in this vision--because this is about economic contribution--is that they need to be sharing that vision and they need to be part of it. I think right now they're an afterthought, and I don't think they feel they're part of crafting the direction that it's headed in.
So I think that's why on the one hand they need to understand--and I think Amy spoke to this as well--what their role in this is and what they have to gain from it, that value proposition needs to be understood by them. But they need to be partners with you, I think, in setting the course for this. I don't think they should be deciding who comes into Canada. I think that remains a government role, but especially for the skilled category, the economic class, as to who is coming in, that is a direct and obvious economic program. Let's make that work so that people do connect to the labour market effectively. In order to do that, I think you need to have the national strategy. I'm not sure what that would look like in absolute detail--I'm sorry I didn't come ready with that--but I think those elements that I spoke to need to be part of it.