It may not count with you, but he actually has probably spent more time on this file than any ministry official has. He reached out to you, did he not, to ask you to come meet with him, to sit down and spend almost two hours reviewing what I think was a pretty robust conversation? I know we're not going to get into the details of it, but it certainly was a conversation where there was a lot of listening going on in terms of direction that we needed to take.
On May 11th, 2010. See this statement in context.