The safe third country agreement is the one we have with the United States. All it does is provide that people who come to Canada through the United States and can make a claim in that country should make their claim in the United States and not in Canada. They're not being denied a right to claim; they're being told that because the United States is a country that Canada has determined respects human rights and gives a fair refugee determination, they should make the claim in the United States.
This is completely different from the list that's now being proposed. The effect of being put on this list will only impact your rights in Canada. You'll have a right to a first determination, but you will not have a right to an appeal. Some people would ask why that is important--you're still getting your quality first hearing. But we have sustained for many, many years that there will be problem decisions; it's inevitable in any decision-making process.
The judicial review is not an adequate appeal mechanism, and that's why many of us lobbied for years for the creation of an appeal mechanism. So if an appeal mechanism is now recognized as being necessary--