Well, I looked at the proposed pay grade for these new board members or civil servants, and it's up there. The quality of decision-maker is up there. The eight-day tape would disclose, unlike a transcript, the sense of whether that claimant understood the nature and quality of the questions.
So it's not a hearing on day eight; it's simple questions. The trade-off is, if you finance the preparation early on in the process, you'll save big in terms of time and resources as the system rolls out. You have to invest in the lawyers.
My comments are that whether it's eight days, six months, or six years, we're talking about feelings. They want to feel good before sharing with the lawyer...? My experience is that the women from Africa and China who I dealt with were...I wouldn't say hardened veterans, but they put some of my family members to shame in terms of what they came away from and in terms of their self-confidence and esteem in being able to get around all of the international security safeguards to reach Canadian soil.
These are not marshmallows landing in Canada; these are unbelievable human beings who are brave. When I spoke with them, they knew what happened to them. They don't need a lawyer to tell them what the refugee law is in order to get accepted; they relayed their story plainly.
Sorry, Mr. Chairman, I got carried away.