I think what's important on this aspect is that you can come at it from two different perspectives. Some folks who have witnessed have chosen to come at it from the perspective that there's a perception there's going to be a blanket safe country of origin. Therefore an individual, regardless of his individual background or what may have happened to this person.... There is some sort of understanding that that's how this legislation would be enacted with respect to safe country.
The other way to come at this--and I think this is what you three are suggesting and what the government supports--is yes, safe countries of origin, with rigorous assessment tools and criteria to be able to define them, but having a subset that actually allows for parts of a country, or individuals, or groups within that country, to be exempt, so to speak, from that country of safe origin. Your example in Mali would to me be an obvious recommendation or suggestion that we would move into this.
What I'm trying to do is open up the understanding of exactly what safe country of origin is going to mean here. I would ask that you give your perspective on how, from a regulatory perspective, this would be enacted.